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		<title>By: Michel</title>
		<link>http://acurrie.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/bell-browsing-bomb/#comment-4634</link>
		<dc:creator>Michel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone who took such plan (I am not sure that it is specifically this one, but it looks like) did not understand the difference between &quot;unlimited browsing on any handset&quot; and &quot;unlimited access to Internet&quot;. I understand such &quot;mistake&quot;. I am a software engineer, connected to Internet for 15 years, and I don&#039;t either.

So the guy got this month a $85,000 bill from Bell Canada...

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/071213/tecnology/tech_phonebill_col

But these people are really nice ones. They ask him only a few $3,400... To learn that that &quot;unlimited&quot; is only a marketing empty buzzword.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone who took such plan (I am not sure that it is specifically this one, but it looks like) did not understand the difference between &#8220;unlimited browsing on any handset&#8221; and &#8220;unlimited access to Internet&#8221;. I understand such &#8220;mistake&#8221;. I am a software engineer, connected to Internet for 15 years, and I don&#8217;t either.</p>
<p>So the guy got this month a $85,000 bill from Bell Canada&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/071213/tecnology/tech_phonebill_col" rel="nofollow">http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/071213/tecnology/tech_phonebill_col</a></p>
<p>But these people are really nice ones. They ask him only a few $3,400&#8230; To learn that that &#8220;unlimited&#8221; is only a marketing empty buzzword.</p>
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		<title>By: AC</title>
		<link>http://acurrie.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/bell-browsing-bomb/#comment-4632</link>
		<dc:creator>AC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goes to show you, I guess, that &quot;unlimited&quot; in this country is a bit of a misnomer.

Rogers starts charging extra for broadband internet traffic that goes above 100 GB/month. Even the unlimited local calling I get with my old City Fido plan has a soft cap of 5,000 minutes -- although I&#039;ve yet to come anywhere near that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goes to show you, I guess, that &#8220;unlimited&#8221; in this country is a bit of a misnomer.</p>
<p>Rogers starts charging extra for broadband internet traffic that goes above 100 GB/month. Even the unlimited local calling I get with my old City Fido plan has a soft cap of 5,000 minutes &#8212; although I&#8217;ve yet to come anywhere near that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Miller</title>
		<link>http://acurrie.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/bell-browsing-bomb/#comment-4630</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AC:
http://tinyurl.com/24jp7k
Someone who doesn&#039;t read this blog is stuck with a huge bill because he didn&#039;t see the disclaimer about tethering not being covered by the unlimited plan....

Cheers,

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AC:<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/24jp7k" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/24jp7k</a><br />
Someone who doesn&#8217;t read this blog is stuck with a huge bill because he didn&#8217;t see the disclaimer about tethering not being covered by the unlimited plan&#8230;.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: AC</title>
		<link>http://acurrie.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/bell-browsing-bomb/#comment-4366</link>
		<dc:creator>AC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 03:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your LG fashion phone can&#039;t do screen grabs?

:-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your LG fashion phone can&#8217;t do screen grabs?</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ed Miller</title>
		<link>http://acurrie.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/bell-browsing-bomb/#comment-4362</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AC:

I signed up online for the $7 miracle on Saturday, got the confirmation e-mail Sunday night, so I ventured into Mobile Browser Land for the first time ever.
Apparently, it&#039;s Van Halen ringtone day, because the first thing that came up was the VH logo.  A 2-page menu is the home page for the browser, with categories to different sites.  Weather, news, etc. are all there.  I found Google buried in the 2nd page and googled &quot;Andrew Currie,&quot; which led me to this blog, which loaded in a nice, readable format.  I&#039;ll have to play around with bookmarks, settings, etc. to see what happens.

And if I get my camera to take readable images, I&#039;ll link the results here....

Cheers,

Ed

I tried taking photos of the screen, but the macro capability of my camera sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AC:</p>
<p>I signed up online for the $7 miracle on Saturday, got the confirmation e-mail Sunday night, so I ventured into Mobile Browser Land for the first time ever.<br />
Apparently, it&#8217;s Van Halen ringtone day, because the first thing that came up was the VH logo.  A 2-page menu is the home page for the browser, with categories to different sites.  Weather, news, etc. are all there.  I found Google buried in the 2nd page and googled &#8220;Andrew Currie,&#8221; which led me to this blog, which loaded in a nice, readable format.  I&#8217;ll have to play around with bookmarks, settings, etc. to see what happens.</p>
<p>And if I get my camera to take readable images, I&#8217;ll link the results here&#8230;.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Ed</p>
<p>I tried taking photos of the screen, but the macro capability of my camera sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: AC</title>
		<link>http://acurrie.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/bell-browsing-bomb/#comment-4156</link>
		<dc:creator>AC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit I&#039;m not exactly warm to the Touch myself (get it?) -- a friend let me play with his Telus-branded Touch and I couldn&#039;t even get the damn screen lock to open!

But even if it &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; an iPhone-wannabe, HTC has &lt;a href=&quot;http://mobifun.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/htc-sells-over-1-million-touch-handsets-congratulations-to-htc/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;already sold a million of &#039;em&lt;/a&gt; -- I wonder if non-exclusive carrier agreements has anything to do with that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit I&#8217;m not exactly warm to the Touch myself (get it?) &#8212; a friend let me play with his Telus-branded Touch and I couldn&#8217;t even get the damn screen lock to open!</p>
<p>But even if it <i>is</i> an iPhone-wannabe, HTC has <a href="http://mobifun.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/htc-sells-over-1-million-touch-handsets-congratulations-to-htc/" rel="nofollow">already sold a million of &#8216;em</a> &#8212; I wonder if non-exclusive carrier agreements has anything to do with that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rdolishny</title>
		<link>http://acurrie.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/bell-browsing-bomb/#comment-4146</link>
		<dc:creator>rdolishny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have two friends this weekend that pulled out that HTC with the seven dollar a month disclaimer.

I hate the phone it&#039;s really waaay too small, but the landscape certainly seems to be changing. Again, AC, thanks for doing the hard work for me. I was curious about what the dealio really was. Looks legit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have two friends this weekend that pulled out that HTC with the seven dollar a month disclaimer.</p>
<p>I hate the phone it&#8217;s really waaay too small, but the landscape certainly seems to be changing. Again, AC, thanks for doing the hard work for me. I was curious about what the dealio really was. Looks legit.</p>
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		<title>By: Elias C.</title>
		<link>http://acurrie.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/bell-browsing-bomb/#comment-4089</link>
		<dc:creator>Elias C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, although thats what the Telus plan says, its not true. Telus started with that plan, but around Tuesday started calling all their data customers to get them on a new plan that included, at first, 250MB of web browsing data, and apparently now includes an unlimited amount of web browsing. Telus is at least make an effort here. Rogers is not budging at all. In fact, I&#039;m leaving them on Monday (bye bye E61).

Here is the link:
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1281082</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, although thats what the Telus plan says, its not true. Telus started with that plan, but around Tuesday started calling all their data customers to get them on a new plan that included, at first, 250MB of web browsing data, and apparently now includes an unlimited amount of web browsing. Telus is at least make an effort here. Rogers is not budging at all. In fact, I&#8217;m leaving them on Monday (bye bye E61).</p>
<p>Here is the link:<br />
<a href="http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1281082" rel="nofollow">http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1281082</a></p>
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		<title>By: AC</title>
		<link>http://acurrie.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/bell-browsing-bomb/#comment-4087</link>
		<dc:creator>AC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the heads-up on that new Telus Mobility plan... Interesting times we&#039;re finding ourselves in!

Here&#039;s the (Ontario) link to what Elias is writing about:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/2qf9tk

It should be noted that the page states that the plan is for email and IM &lt;em&gt;only&lt;/em&gt; -- the email should be easy to enforce on a BlackBerry, as it goes through a dedicated BlackBerry pipe. As for the IM, or &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; on the Telus Touch, I have &lt;em&gt;no&lt;/em&gt; idea how Telus could differentiate one type of data from another. I guess the same goes for Bell...

I&#039;m still waiting for my first Fido Bill with my new &lt;a href=&quot;http://fido3gexperience.ca/3g-options.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;3G value pack&lt;/a&gt;, and hoping there&#039;s some truth to the rumours of subscribers getting unlimited data for the first four months.

I guess one thing is clear from all of this... That iPhone is definitely on its way, and the other carriers are moving fast to lock in as many people as they can before it gets here. But as we all know, &lt;a href=&quot;http://acurrie.wordpress.com/2007/04/14/canadian-cellular-contracts/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;multi-year contracts on &lt;em&gt;any&lt;/em&gt; carrier are a bad idea&lt;/a&gt;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the heads-up on that new Telus Mobility plan&#8230; Interesting times we&#8217;re finding ourselves in!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the (Ontario) link to what Elias is writing about:</p>
<p><a href="http://preview.tinyurl.com/2qf9tk" rel="nofollow">http://preview.tinyurl.com/2qf9tk</a></p>
<p>It should be noted that the page states that the plan is for email and IM <em>only</em> &#8212; the email should be easy to enforce on a BlackBerry, as it goes through a dedicated BlackBerry pipe. As for the IM, or <i>anything</i> on the Telus Touch, I have <em>no</em> idea how Telus could differentiate one type of data from another. I guess the same goes for Bell&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still waiting for my first Fido Bill with my new <a href="http://fido3gexperience.ca/3g-options.html" rel="nofollow">3G value pack</a>, and hoping there&#8217;s some truth to the rumours of subscribers getting unlimited data for the first four months.</p>
<p>I guess one thing is clear from all of this&#8230; That iPhone is definitely on its way, and the other carriers are moving fast to lock in as many people as they can before it gets here. But as we all know, <a href="http://acurrie.wordpress.com/2007/04/14/canadian-cellular-contracts/" rel="nofollow">multi-year contracts on <em>any</em> carrier are a bad idea</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Elias C.</title>
		<link>http://acurrie.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/bell-browsing-bomb/#comment-4084</link>
		<dc:creator>Elias C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to my last comment, I also wanted to add some explanation for this: 
Bell had no idea what data is what, other than for tethering. They don&#039;t know if you&#039;re web browsing on your Touch, emailing etc. etc. They CAN tell if you are buffering something (extreme data use) and they WILL eventually cut you off for that, and they can limit your access to tethering. But thats all they can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to my last comment, I also wanted to add some explanation for this:<br />
Bell had no idea what data is what, other than for tethering. They don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;re web browsing on your Touch, emailing etc. etc. They CAN tell if you are buffering something (extreme data use) and they WILL eventually cut you off for that, and they can limit your access to tethering. But thats all they can do.</p>
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